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Post by underdog on Sept 4, 2010 19:30:08 GMT -5
Double overtime.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Sept 4, 2010 20:48:04 GMT -5
CN has a long way to go. Their running game was spot on considering the defense they were playing against. Their passing game was non-existant outside of two passes. I was very impressed with their defense but thier offense needs a lot more work.
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Post by coachac on Sept 7, 2010 0:05:14 GMT -5
Newmans plsy calling was very conservative. The qb showed some accuracy and good mobility. If they can find ways to roll him out a little bit being that he is 5'9 they might not be so one dimensional.
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Post by norcalsportsfan on Sept 11, 2010 14:29:31 GMT -5
Hey NCS has Cardinal Newman as DII for playoffs. Is CN able to play in D3 playoffs this year or will they be forced up? Valley Christian plays tonight. Valley Christian will be an offensie juggernaught with a very good defense.
Palma should have defeated but tied a ery good Saint Francis Mountain View last night. Block field goal on SFs 7 yard line with 14 seconds left. The week earlier SF shut out and dominated a very good Oak Grove San Jose team (24-0 and could have been by more). Palma started 5 sophs (6 playing) of the 7 up on varsity. Palma and CN looks like it will be low scoring. Palma's strength is run defense with the best defensive line I ever recall. The D-line averages over 270....and they are strong and quick. LBs are very quick and DBs are very physical. Best Palma defense in years. I can see this team having several shutouts- just dominating against the run. Offense is like their defense. Big line but strong and quick and power running. Not as explosive as last year, but the team is better than last year.
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Post by bella on Sept 11, 2010 15:30:23 GMT -5
ncsportsfan, is Dahlman still coaching the lines this year at Palma?
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Post by football415 on Sept 11, 2010 15:34:20 GMT -5
CN was not forced to DII they petitioned up in 07 or 08 (??). With the new enrollment alignment they will probably be forced back to DIII because of some rule that they can only go up 1 division. (still cant seem to find where that is written on the ncs site) Technically they are DIV for enrollment. We will see where everyone lands come Sept. 17th. MC should petition back up to DIII since they can easily compete. Healdsburg will run the table if they stay down in DIV.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Sept 11, 2010 19:17:27 GMT -5
CN is Div. IV by 4 students and by NCS rules you can petition up only one division in football at least.
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Post by football415 on Sept 11, 2010 19:27:39 GMT -5
I would really love to see where that rule is located....can you attach a link from the ncs site? Or is it a rule that is not available to the website?
To clarify my question, here is my interpretation. When the numbers changed this year, all the teams that did not already have a petition on file were moved to their enrollment division. When CN petitioned up in 08 they moved from III to II.
If there is a rule for only going up once then why hasn't NCS moved them down like the other teams?
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Post by Ben Herrington on Sept 11, 2010 22:06:07 GMT -5
i have no idea but I heard it from a very reliable source. I would consider them the most reliable of what I have for contacts.
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Post by football415 on Sept 11, 2010 22:54:46 GMT -5
This is all there is on the NCS site...so your source must have insight into some "unwritten rule or something.
507H Classifications/Divisions
a) NCS/Les Schwab Tires Championship Series Events shall be divided into classifications or divisions as determined by
the NCS Board of Managers and/or the State CIF Federated Council.
b) Criteria for establishing divisions:
1. Criteria for divisional alignment:
Balance all divisions by the number of schools participating
A minimum of 25 boys and girls teams in each division
2. Sports with six (6) divisions (currently girls’ volleyball, boys’/girls’ basketball, baseball, softball) all schools
will be placed in the same division for the identified sports.
3. If a schools enrollment increases or decreases by 15% or more of the division break, that school will be moved
up or down a division the following school year. (Note: If a school is moved to a different division, causing a
division to drop below the minimum of 25 schools, then the divisions will need to be adjusted to balance each
division.)
NOTE: Divisions will be reevaluated at every alignment cycle. (every 4 years)
If a school enrollment increases or decreases by less than 15% of the division break, that school may
remain in the current division until the next realignment cycle (every 4 years)
c) Schools will be allowed to change classification/division only, in the sports of baseball, football, soccer, softball, team
tennis and water polo for the purpose of post-season competition consistent with the applicable criteria.
Schools may petition in accordance with the time schedule set by the NCS Board of Managers, to a baseball, football,
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soccer, softball and/or water polo (if classification competition is conducted) classification of greater enrollment. The
deadline for petitions would be consistent with other sports of the same season. Schools who petition up in
classification/division will remain at that classification/division during the current year and future years. Schools who
petition up in classification/division may move back to their actual classification/division in accordance with the time
schedule set by the NCS Board of Managers.Note: Some additional criteria for changing classification/division may be included under the specific sports in this
handbook.
d) In the sports of football, soccer, team tennis, wrestling, baseball and softball, where classifications/divisions are
determined by enrollment in the previous year's grades 9-12 TOTAL data, and any other "classification/division" sports
that are subsequently added, NCS staff shall automatically adjust to TOTAL enrollment break points to ensure that
schools from different classifications/divisions have approximately the same chance of participating in the NCS playoffs
based on established bracket sizes. NCS staff shall take historical "petitioning up" in classification/division into
consideration when determining break points. Any enrollment breaks listed under specific sports are subject to change
based on the above potential adjustments. Each sport championship bulletin will list the current year’s enrollment
breaks.
(Board of Managers 1/21/05)
e) If a school of larger classification/division participates in a league with schools of a smaller classification/division that
school must compete in its actual classification/division during post-season competition in team sports.
SINGLE CLASSIFICATIONS
Co-ed Badminton (Spring) Boys' & Girls’ Swimming, Boys' Golf (Spring)
Boys’ & Girls’ Wrestling (Winter) Girls’ Soccer (Spring)
Boys’ & Girls’ Meet of Champions Track & Field Championships
f) Any school who participates in the NCS Championship contest, finishing first in the respective classification or
division, for three years in succession will automatically be moved to the next higher classification or division the
following school year of competition. The school may return to the actual classification or division of enrollment
after at least one year of competition at the higher classification or division once the school does not participate in
the NCS Championship contest, finishing first.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Sept 11, 2010 23:11:19 GMT -5
No way I'm reading all that haha. I agree what I've heard is not in the rules or anything I have seen/read on the NCS site. I'll have to stick with my people on this one considering whos feeding me the info. Its been confirmed over and over by other people that share info with. Maybe its something the NCS is planning to put into place?? Or maybe Newman and Marin Catholic have something worked out on the side to meet once again in the playoffs :0
They did scrimmage this season for the first time in at least over a deacade (not sure how long Newman and Casa have been scrimmaging).
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Post by norcalsportsfan on Sept 11, 2010 23:19:56 GMT -5
Yes. Dahlman is coaching Palma's oline. This year is best line they have had since 2001. My brother coaches his son in youth league (11 year olds). He will be a terror when he hits high school.
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Post by football415 on Sept 11, 2010 23:58:17 GMT -5
Leave it to the privates to make their own rules, lol.
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Post by norcalsportsfan on Sept 12, 2010 0:41:27 GMT -5
From what I understand, CN needs to petiton to change their last petiton which was D2 if they are to move to their enrollment. Does anyone have concrete evidence that CN will change their petiton or is this speculation?
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Post by norcalsportsfan on Sept 12, 2010 1:45:09 GMT -5
DIVISIONS - ACCORDING TO ENROLLMENT-refer to the www.cifncs Football home page SCHOOLS WISHING TO MOVE TO A DIVISION OF HIGHER ENROLLMENT OR WHO WISH TO RETURN TO THEIR ACTUAL ENROLLMENT DIVISION MUST DECLARE BY PETITION TO THE NORTH COAST SECTION OFFICE. PETITIONS MUST BE RECEIVED IN THE NCS OFFICE NO LATER THAN FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2010. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS. Petitions will be faxed or mailed to all Principals August 10, 2010. Note: Schools who petition up in division will remain at that division during the current year and future years. Schools who petition up in division may move back to their actual division in accordance with the time schedule set by the NCS Board of Managers. Final division placement will be posted on the NCS website Football Home Page after petitions have been received and acted upon. |
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