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Post by Ben Herrington on Jan 14, 2010 21:45:41 GMT -5
Keep playing a schedule they can't handle??? This season... Casa Grande, Petaluma, Windsor Carrillo rarely beats Windsor, and dispite their 6-5 finish this season, Windsor was still that much better than Carrillo. Petaluma was a new add this season after Carrillo and Sonoma ended their entertaining evenly matched series over the last number of years. For Carrillo to schedule Petaluma with Casa and Windsor already on their schedule was complete madness. Playing a touch non-league team is great and all, but playing three in a row??? Casa Grande has been playing and beating Carrillo for years, and better yet, Carrillo has only beaten Casa once in a year where Casa made playoffs. Carrillo nearly pulled one off this season but its the end result that counts. Overall, Carrillo didnt beat Petaluma, cant beat Windsor, and cant beat Casa. Too many tough non-league games that kills them of playoffs. With 3 losses already on the season, Carrillo needs a 5-2 season in league to go just 5-5. Newman, Rancho, Montgomery... Carrillo has never beaten Montgomery Carrillo has beaten Rancho twice in the school series (13 years I think) Carrillo has had some sweet wins over Newman. 2005 was amazing, I still watch the highlights Dave Cox gave to me a few years back. Outside of that 2005 win, Carrillo beat Newman in 2002, and I think once before that. So only three wins in 13 years. That means Carrillo would need to edge one of these opponents, and win all of their other contests (Piner, Santa Rosa, Elsie, and Ukiah) just for 5-5. Come on... No disrespect, but am I missing something here?  |
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Post by 4thqtrcomeback on Jan 16, 2010 9:56:19 GMT -5
I think MC's schedule is fine. They are playing all D2 schools in the preseason. Its not like they are playing D1 schools, and Casa is the only powerhouse. Petaluma had a great year last year, but is normally around or just above .500, and Windsor is normally around .500 too.
MC plays 8 games against D2 schools, one vs. D1 (SR), and one D3 (EA). If you can't get a winning record vs. schools in your own division do you deserve to make the playoffs? I don't think so, at least not with that large of a sample size.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Jan 16, 2010 14:00:25 GMT -5
Considering Maria Carrillo choose this season to play Petaluma, thats a big mistake to begin with. Regardless of if you thought Petaluma would win SCL or not, everyone knew they would be a strong team. With already playing a consistantly strong Casa, playing Petaluma was probably not the best idea. Also considering they were playing a strong Windsor team with DJ King and Cameron Erion, picking up Petaluma still proves to not be the best idea.
Playing the SCL champ, regardless of what division they are should be the only very tough game for a below average Carrillo program.
Carrillo cant worry about playing other strong Div. II programs if they are stuggling to make playoffs in the first place.
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Post by scobserver on Jan 17, 2010 10:12:50 GMT -5
The playoff structure really penalizes a team for not playing in its same "division." MC can't play "up" to D1 because the point is they are not strong enough at D2 as it is. There is pressure to play locally to help boost gate receipts and interest and keep travel costs down. That does not leave a whole lot of other easily accessible D2 teams to play.
Windsor is an obvious competitive choice; Petaluma is not always ultra strong as they were last year; really, only the series v. Casa qualifes as a questionable annual "death wish."
Yeah, MC could seek out some east bay D2 teams which are "winnable" but why sacrifice local games that actually draw a lot of interest to playing far flung teams that waste time and money in travel, just to please the NCS playoff organizers? Ben, I think you in the past lamented the ending of intriguing local matchups such as Monty-Sonoma and now Carillo-Sonoma. But it's the playoff structure that's forcing this issue--I give Carillo props for staying local and not chasing the "out of the area opponent of the month" sweepstakes.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Jan 17, 2010 14:13:11 GMT -5
Oh I truely miss the Montgomery-Sonoma match up. Even the Carrillo-Sonoma game was a great series to see. Honestly I miss the Montgomery-Petaluma games as well. All three games were a great series.
Carrillo playing Casa... OK, playing a tough game is a good idea, as long as its only one because in this case Carrillo is not a dominate Div II team.
Carrillo playing Sonoma... Perfect, good for both teams
Carrillo playing Lowell (SF), Freedom (1-9 this season, Carrillo has won in the past), or another team they can BEAT, then good.
Carrillo should try for just one game out of the area, maybe Mt. Eden, or even Div. I Livermore. Might be a little more money and travel, but if it means a win, maybe Carrillo getting a 7-3 season over a 6-4 season and landing a home NCS game, it could be worth it.
If the NCS hadnt expanded the playoffs to 16 teams, Carrillo wouldnt have been there.
I was there right as Casa had gone up 18-0 in the NCS first round. Higgins made me a believer, Carrillo can get wins and can play in the playoffs, but playing Casa, Petaluma (in 09), and Windsor is a mistake. Carrillo was an aweful good 4-7 team, and its not coaching holding them back (unlike other NBL programs I've mentioned in the past), its a very tough, unwinable non-league gautlett that is causing injuries and demoralizing players.
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Post by dynomite on Jan 23, 2010 13:10:06 GMT -5
MC is doing what any good program should do: Playing a tough schedule. How do we know they cant handle it until they play it? I really dont think this schedule is all that special.
vs. Casa.... last year they barely lost in the play-offs. They barely lost to Monty who beat Casa in the play-offs and so on. The good programs keep playing those tough teams because eventually it will pay off.
vs. Petaluma..... I think the world of Coach Ellison but Petaluma has only been very decent on the field in his career with an occasional "special" team. Last year they were special. They are always a good match and competitive and a good challenge for any team.
vs. Windsor..... With a brand new coach you have to expect some hiccups out of the gate so this could be the easiest game they schedule. Regardless Windsor is a good test for MC with comparative enrollment.
Bottom line is if MC wants to REALLY compete in the NBL they need to test themselves early. Newman does it. Monty tries to do it. I agree it would help them to go out of the area for competition to truly test themselves but all these schools are D2 so the outcome of these three games will tell them if they are worthy for the play-offs.
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Post by SCLMCAL on Feb 8, 2010 19:56:40 GMT -5
Carrillo cant beat casa. But with WHS getting a new coach you never know. Also this season petaluma is lucky to go 500. They started 22 seniors in each playoff game, and 21 in the regular season. Krist has a real tough task at hand in my opinion.
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Post by LocalFan on Feb 24, 2010 15:42:12 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong reading this but I believe MC beat Windsor 2008/2009 Season... And then Windsor beat MC this 2009/2010 season. I could be wrong. And who cares who's playing who as long as it's a good game, brings a good audience and gives MC a good practice run sorta. I think the match up with Casa is fun and the boys go into the games with their game faces on to want to win and if they don't the last few years have been close calls and that's good for them. ALL My best to MC Boys this year... They will do well. I'm looking for win against MONTY!! ;-)
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Post by Ben Herrington on Feb 24, 2010 19:46:46 GMT -5
True, the Windsor and Casa games have been entertaining. With two tough games already on the non-league schedule, I just wasnt a fan of Carrillo scheduling Petaluma (12-1).
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Post by northbayinsider3 on May 27, 2010 14:47:07 GMT -5
The schedule looks kinda depressing, showing the facts that the last recent years the Pumas have started out slow, yet seem to turn it around after the first few weeks.. You have to remember that Atoe did not play in last years game against windsor after being injured the game before against Casa, Now am i saying that Atoe can lead the Pumas to a 3-0 start against three very impressive SCL teams, maybe not but he sure will help them get off to a start that many may not be see happening.. Dont count the pumas out too soon.. They might turn some heads
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Post by Ben Herrington on May 27, 2010 18:11:44 GMT -5
I think this season Carrillo could pull out a good regular season record. Casa will be just as good but Windsor should be down from what they were last season. Petaluma will be lucky to go 5-5 so as for 2010 Carrillo could really make things happen. 2009 it didnt happen due to a number of factors, but thats in the past.
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Post by htown707 on Jun 5, 2010 13:35:46 GMT -5
These games that Carillo are playing are not all that tough. The only tough test I see is Casa Grande, both Windsor and Petaluma are not going to be anywhere near where they were talent wise last season. Carillo should be a team that could make some noise this season with the leadership of there battle tested senior running back Sam Atoe. Carillo should be able to go at least 2-1 in the pre-season. The Casa vs. Carillo game should be a war, just like in last years playoffs. For whatever reason, Casa has had huge problems defending against the option the last couple of years, including two straight losses to Petaluma in the Egg Bowl. I'm not quite sure what has been going wrong but it seems they have been having problems with offenses that wear you down as the game goes on. For example look at the egg bowl from last season. In the beginning of the game, Petaluma pounded the ball with Ricky Simms, then later in the game, they streached the field by letting Sullivan use his speed to run wild in the 2nd half. It should be interesting to see what the Casa coaching staff can come up with to try to defend the option better.
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Post by LocalFan on Sept 9, 2010 14:41:21 GMT -5
Now that some of these first 3 games have started.... My prediction is Carrillo will take the Trojans tomorrow night - Casa will be a great game and I can't predict that one - Windsor is looking great since beating monty and should be a great game also I predict Carrillo taking windsor as well.
Can't wait for tomorrow nights game!
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Post by htown707 on Sept 9, 2010 16:16:34 GMT -5
My position on Carillo still does not change from June, I think they will finish 2-1 in the pre-season. But the chances of going 3-0 is defitnitally not out of the question. But on the other hand 1-2 isn't out of the question either. Both the Windsor, and Casa games should be pretty competitive. The Windsor matchup looks like a good one for Carillo. One thing I saw with Windsor last week was they had trouble stopping the Monty running game at times. They allowed two 50+ yard TD runs (one was called back on a bogus holding call.) Also one of Monty's TD drives was all running plays, they just could not stop it.When you play Carillo, you are going to see them run the football a lot against you. Especially when you have one of the best running backs in the empire in your backfield in Sam Atoe.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Sept 9, 2010 18:43:55 GMT -5
Carrillo will do better this season than usual but I dont see better than 2-1 and thats with an upset over Casa or Windsor. I have no doubt Carrillo can beat Petaluma but they need to show up and play hard.
A win over Casa is going to be hard to imagine but no one predicted Santa Rosa would beat Petaluma. I figure a lot depends on how well Casa does at Ukiah tomorrow night. A win over Windsor will be a hard one but you never know. I'll stray on the side of caution and take Carrillo at 1-2 going into league play and 6-4 on the season with two additional losses coming in league.
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