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Post by dynomite on Jul 5, 2009 18:52:09 GMT -5
Should Coaches adapt their systems to their players or mold their players to their system?
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Post by oldfan on Jul 5, 2009 19:33:44 GMT -5
College coaches can recruit to their system therefore they can run the same system for years. H.S. coaches need to mold their systems around their players. example: Coach Conroy has been successful for years with the veer at R.C. however this year he has good wide receivers and a quick open field style back. If he adjusted to the spread he would open up wider running lanes for Dworkin, he could run the speed option out of the spread, and he could pass more to the these talented wideouts.
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Post by newmanfan on Jul 5, 2009 20:11:30 GMT -5
little bit of both
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Post by Ben Herrington on Jul 6, 2009 13:51:39 GMT -5
Stick the the system. Might take a little to get it going, but a determined coach with a solid playbook and knowledge will be successful.
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Post by pops on Jul 6, 2009 19:18:01 GMT -5
Ben, I am not so sure about that unless a system is flexible. Sometimes you get a great running back so you run more. If your system is to pass and your quarterback is a poor passer, a coach would be a fool to stick with an inflexible system system.
A smart coach adjusts their system to fit available athletic resources. This way, life as a coach is more exciting. Poor adjustments is poor coaching. Kids are not cookie cut to be what a coach wants each season.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Jul 6, 2009 20:42:05 GMT -5
But would it be a good idea for a coach that runs the spread to switch to the wishbone if he gets some good RBs for a season or two? OK, so his few players might be used better, but his coaching would suffer due to lack of experience with the wishbone.
What would happen after those RBs leave, and a stud QB comes up? Back to the spread and you would have to re-educate the offensive line and WR on a new playbook.
I think it would be easier to move those RBs to WRs and keep everything with the spread. There are a lot of running plays you can run out of the spread. Option, draw, reverse, counter, etc.
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Post by jbytes on Jul 6, 2009 21:43:21 GMT -5
It depends on the sytem you are going from and to. Some systems are so involved that you cant teach in one season and you need to transition into it.
The systems that work off of general schemes, packages and passing tree (like the spread) are easy to teach because the coach is taking all of the knowledge out of it for the players and telling them what exactly to do every play. Reads are simple.
But offenses that are engrained for years cant just switch in and out. You can add special packages to it, but not ditch it completely. Regardless of personnel.
Thats why I favor an overall offense that you can manipulate more easily rather than something you have to sell the whole house for. Its easier on your players and puts the pressure on the coach to call the plays.
Offenses that require players to think too much in high school rarely work well consistently because you are relying in experience. And when a team that has an offense like this that graduates a lot of seniors suffers. Offenses where teaching the line it's reads more easily are better year to year.
To sum it up, you can always change your system somewhat if you have a stud QB no matter the type of offense. But some offenses are easier to switch up than others.
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Post by pops on Jul 7, 2009 12:29:52 GMT -5
Guys, I am being misunderstood. I would like to use De La Salle High School as a great example. They run the veer, but if they have a passing QB they pass more that year. They are an example of a team that adjusts well to their players. Do they change the system? No, but they change their play calling.
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Post by oldfan on Jul 7, 2009 15:05:40 GMT -5
A comparison to De La Salle or CN is not fair as like colleges they can recruit to their system
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Post by ranchofan on Jul 7, 2009 15:49:22 GMT -5
It is not a matter of being able to recruit as Pops said it is the coach who has to adapt to the players he has. If you have good receivers and a strong Q.B then you should throw more.
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Post by pops on Jul 7, 2009 19:30:57 GMT -5
Rancho fan you are so right. A college or pro coach has much more control of their destiny than does a high school coach. In high school you get a bunch of kids, sort through them, and adjust your system to fit them. You get what you get. Lemons or lemonade. The great coaches adjust their system to the players.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Jul 7, 2009 21:39:24 GMT -5
Players can be changed and molded by good coaches. Perfect example: Adam Froman.
Coach Higgins took him from a soccer player to a kicker, to a quarterback. Of Course Froman moved on to the JC and now is at Louisville. It took a head coach that knew what he could be to mold him to what he was when he played for the JC.
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