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Post by newmanfan on Oct 10, 2009 23:19:47 GMT -5
I read in the PD a JV Casa coach got tossed out of the game for yelling an obscenity,and three consecutive unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. Today I observed a Piner coach screaming in the face of one of his players before the newman piner game. Then later in the game a roughing the passer penalty, upset the coach and he threw his clipboard to the ground, yelling and stompin his feet. I was waiting to see if he'd throw himself on the ground and start kicking and screaming. I know the game can get intense but they should conduct themselves in a professional manner. There must be a code of conduct for these coaches . I know things are different from the bleachers ,Just my observation.
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Post by htown707 on Oct 11, 2009 1:12:26 GMT -5
Did that coach Casa coach get tossed? I didn't see anybody get tossed in that deal. It was acually really funny to watch, ask Ben about it, it was funny.
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Post by htown707 on Oct 11, 2009 1:13:39 GMT -5
oops my bad "coach casa coach" oops!
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Post by penguin on Oct 11, 2009 10:51:20 GMT -5
Did that coach Casa coach get tossed? I didn't see anybody get tossed in that deal. It was acually really funny to watch, ask Ben about it, it was funny. A Case Grande coach most certainly was ejected after receiving three consecutive unsportsmanlike conduct penalties (which forced Casa to kick off from their own 5 yard line). The officials even held up the game as the coach first tried to just leave the field and watch from behind the fence. They made him exit the stadium.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Oct 11, 2009 12:55:21 GMT -5
I was watching from the press box and it was pretty funny. Five flags in a row, never seen anything like it in HS ball. I dont know who got kicked out, player or coach, but what happens happens. Dont agree with it, but Im sure they know what they did and they paid for it.
As for the Piner Newman game, unless your a head coach taking over a neglected program with players getting suspended and arrested around the clock, you cant talk. After weeks of hard work and more curveballs than you could imagine, id be pretty angry if unsportsmanlike was called on my player for doing something stupid too. To a point, youve got to see where these coaches are coming from....but only to a point.
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Post by nblfan on Oct 11, 2009 14:38:50 GMT -5
Newmanfan, do you have any clue as to what happened on the Piner sidelines before the game. A referee told a Piner player that he had to take off a wristband he was wearing. The player replied, "You got to be F****** kidding me". Coach Tomlin jumped in the players face and let him not so quietly know that that behavior will not be allowed. Coach Tomlin has his hands full with his senior class. Dont comment if you dont know what happened!!!!
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Post by nblfan on Oct 11, 2009 14:41:52 GMT -5
Also, Coach Tomlin has not gotten one single unsportsmanlike penalty this year. He is just fighting hard for his kids to show them that he cares. I coach with him and he is trying as hard as he can to get these kids to play the game the right way whether they win or lose.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Oct 11, 2009 16:12:47 GMT -5
well said
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Post by xcat on Oct 11, 2009 20:47:40 GMT -5
Kudos to those coaches who set the bar and expect their kids to behave. Such life lessons are why there is a nexus between football and education.
I hope that the Casa AD and Coach Herzog will review the conduct of the JV coaches, because having seen that particular team play, class does not seem to be a quality demonstrated or valued by the JV staff. The ejection reinforces what the on-field conduct (taunting, gestures and repeated other unsportsmanlike behavior that elicited repeated warnings by referees preceeding the multiple flags and subsequent ejections) already revealed. It's important to teach kids to handle themselves with a little class.
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Post by tfmo on Oct 12, 2009 0:10:36 GMT -5
Maybe you fans and spectators need to start coaching to see what it’s like to deal with some of the refs and parents. A lot of coaches give up their lives to make sure your kids become better men not just better players. It takes a lot out of a coach when the refs make mistakes time after time and won’t admit it when their wrong. The only way they know how to respond is by reaching for their flags just because you question their calls. Trust me I fully understand we’re not perfect but give us a break. Just acknowledge that your wrong and we all can move forward. I could write a book on the B.S. excuses or the power trips they give you. Coaches spend several hours in a day prepping the kids for a game. Not only do they prep these kids, but some coaches have to baby sit your kids due to your incompetent parenting skills. So instead of wasting your time talking about coaches here go out and coach a kid.
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Post by whsmom on Oct 12, 2009 1:35:03 GMT -5
You have a point tfmo but i live with a Coach and i know he would not act like that believe. Leadership reflects team you need to know when to stop. I do belvieve Ref act that way and that is wrong ! As a coach you need to be a role model to the kids that is all i have to say !
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Post by newmanfan on Oct 12, 2009 9:40:15 GMT -5
Nblfan I'll comment to what ever I see, and what I saw was not a proper response. If that was my kid I wouldnt let the coach talk to him like that. Coaching is difficult I know but lead your kids by example not by acting like some five year old who didnt get their way. Bobby knight school of coaching ,gimme a break this is HS football.
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Post by penguin on Oct 12, 2009 10:06:10 GMT -5
Coaches spend several hours in a day prepping the kids for a game. Not only do they prep these kids, but some coaches have to baby sit your kids due to your incompetent parenting skills. So instead of wasting your time talking about coaches here go out and coach a kid. So not only are you excusing their behavior, but you're trying to blame it on the kid's parents? How about these coaches take some responsibility, try to become better role models, and stop acting like the final score of a high school football game is all that matters? I'd think a 17 year old kid could learn a lot watching a coach deal with adversity with dignity and class rather than seeing him throw a temper tantrum like a spoiled little child when calls don't go their way.
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tfmo
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Post by tfmo on Oct 12, 2009 16:22:01 GMT -5
How about these coaches take some responsibility, try to become better role models |
Thank you for making my point. You as a parent should want your child to look to you as a role model. Not just a coach!!!!!
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Post by penguin on Oct 12, 2009 16:31:55 GMT -5
Thank you for making my point. You as a parent should want your child to look to you as a role model. Not just a coach!!!!! I agree. And if this were a parenting forum discussing how to become a better role model, perhaps we could continue that discussion. But since this is a football message board and we're talking about the behavior of coaches, I think it is more than justified to call into question some coaches and their antics. And just to be clear, I think most coaches do a terrific job. Personally, I am forever indebted to my coaches who were fantastic role models and were instrumental in my maturity as a high school student/athlete. But when I see a coach curse out an official, receive four consecutive penalties, and get tossed out of a Junior Varsity game, I think someone has not only lost perspective, but is doing his entire team a disservice. There are many lessons we can learn participating in sports. What lesson did this coach teach his team?
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