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Post by tonytiger on Dec 5, 2009 17:47:08 GMT -5
Yeah that team is something else and really on a roll. I felt bad for Mikey Russell Last night, he runnig for his life
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Post by tonytiger on Dec 5, 2009 17:47:37 GMT -5
sorry running
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Post by tjm378 on Dec 5, 2009 17:52:17 GMT -5
Ya they all were. Eureka was too big and Soma was domiant. They are wining it all. Tough last game but 12-1 isn't bad at all
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Post by rchs on Dec 5, 2009 18:05:30 GMT -5
i agree tonytiger, mike russell played with alot of heart lastnight he had a few good runs and some beautiful passes also scored there only touchdown. i have kept an i on this kid all year long and i have never seen a kid run a offense like he did. last night was just a off night for that hole team.i belive he will do vary well at the next level. as for ricky sims and sean sullivan. they had to play an A+ game to stand a chance with this team. but nothing can take back the season they had. great run trojans!!!
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Post by pops on Dec 5, 2009 18:22:19 GMT -5
Soma Vainuku is D-1A all the way. Great running back. With his size he is able to make great cuts and has excellent speed. It will be fun watching him play in college. I hope I don't read that he is 19 years old, or has scholastic issues. His opportunities look great! Eureka is very good, but it would have been a closer match without such a dominating running back.
Best of success Eureka!
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Post by hsfbfan on Dec 5, 2009 19:42:51 GMT -5
While you may be right pops, to say it would have been a much closer game without a dominating running back is not much different than saying how ordinary the Bulls would have been without Michael Jordan...they are who they are...and Eureka has a dominating running back. Vainuku is truly a beast, a freak of nature, a man among boys. As I was watching him last night, I was reminded of Earl Campbell - big, strong, fast, tough, thunderously large legs, dragging or running over tacklers...he is the real deal. Yet, even at that, his line was opening huge holes for him (and then he made a lot more happen) - is this because the Eureka line is that good, or did they simply overmatch against Petaluma, or did Petaluma have an off game? I'm not at all sure which it was.
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Post by johnnyappleseed on Dec 5, 2009 21:34:28 GMT -5
I think it was a combination of all three. The trojans definatly had to have a little bit of an off night. Need I remind you what their line did to casa's in the egg bowl. I pray for the lives of casa's line if they win tonight.
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Post by penguin on Dec 5, 2009 21:49:14 GMT -5
I completely agree with many things already posted. As the Trojans obviously didn't have their best game, I don't think it mattered. This game wasn't remotely decided because Petaluma had an off night. The better team clearly won.
And it wasn't all about Vainuku, although he was a huge and impressive part of it. But Eureka dominated the Trojans line, both offense and defense. Something that hasn't remotely happened to Petaluma this year. Which speaks volumes to how good the Loggers are up front. And many people I've spoken to keep talking about how big they were. Which is true, but doesn't tell the whole story. Because outside of Vainuku, I'm not sure they are especially big. But they are especially good.
So as disappointed I am the Trojan's season is over, I'm equally impressed by Eureka. And I hope the bowl selection committee takes a serious look at the Loggers should they win next week.
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Post by johnnyappleseed on Dec 5, 2009 21:56:09 GMT -5
The Trojan d-line was only three players much of the game, so it was not just them. Easy with the finger pointing penguin. The defensive line made plays in the backfield on a number of occasions in the second half, and the line wasn't missing all of those tackles themselves.
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Post by penguin on Dec 5, 2009 22:01:22 GMT -5
The Trojan d-line was only three players much of the game, so it was not just them. Easy with the finger pointing penguin. The defensive line made plays in the backfield on a number of occasions in the second half, and the line wasn't missing all of those tackles themselves. Oh, I'm not trying to finger point. And when I say Eureka's O-line dominated, I'm not just talking about Petaluma's D-line, but everyone on defense. There were some pretty big holes for Soma and the Eureka running backs to run through. But more importantly, it's not meant as a criticism of Petaluma. It's meant as a compliment to Eureka. I've seen every single Petaluma game this year and hadn't seen that happen for an entire game.
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Post by johnnyappleseed on Dec 5, 2009 22:11:29 GMT -5
Well you did say "But Eureka dominated the Trojans line, both offense and defense." So I'm sure you can see why it looks a lot like finger pointing. You should have said Trojans, not trojans line. If that is what you really meant.
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Post by pops on Dec 6, 2009 11:46:37 GMT -5
I spoke with one of the elite Petaluma players after the game, and he said that the Eureka O line and D lines were just too big. Petaluma played very well, but Eureka just was better. Now go tear up Montgomery so that Petaluma feels good about themselves!
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Post by stang11 on Dec 6, 2009 12:36:47 GMT -5
When a teams rushes for over 500 yds. and only throws 2 passes, that means the Trojan D - Line got dominated. There is no silver lining.
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Post by 4thqtrcomeback on Dec 6, 2009 13:44:39 GMT -5
I agree Stang 11. The other thing i noticed is that the Petaluma LB's were having trouble picking up the ball, and by the time they did, Eurekas backs were already to the hole and were up to full speed. This occurred for the following reasons.
1. Eurekas QB did a good job of hiding the ball and carrying out fakes (the RB's without the ball did a good job of carrying out fakes too).
2. Eureka's o-line was large enough that it made it much more tough to see through to the backs and find the ball
3. Petalumas D-line was out-manned vs. Eureka's O-line and the D-line was getting pushed back into the LB's. Because of this, the Petaluma LB's were getting caught in the wash, so even when they did pick up the ball, it was hard to get to the running back.
4. The Petaluma LB's did not adjust their positioning in the second half. IMO (Take it for what ever its worth), If your D-line is getting beat like that you need to do one of two things.
I. You use more men at the point of attack and try to turn the play inside earlier.
II. The other strategy is to have your LB's play a little bit deeper so they don't get caught in the wash trying to figure out who has the ball (Their first key should be the guards). When you do this though your LB's must pick the ball up quickly and come through the hole like a missile, and the rest of the D must rally to the ball.
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Post by 4thqtrcomeback on Dec 6, 2009 13:46:56 GMT -5
The bottom line is that Petaluma ran into a good team that they did not matchup well with.
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