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Post by dynomite on Dec 5, 2009 20:28:51 GMT -5
I was just told.
Ft. Bragg 41 Salesian 28
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Post by cotterstone on Dec 6, 2009 21:04:15 GMT -5
There is a meeting with the NCS AD's tomorrow. They are going to vote on a new rule that states that if you are in the championship game 3 years in a row you must play up a division the next year. Thus both SV and St. Elizabeth would play in the D4 playoffs next year. Most of the AD's I have spoken with are going to vote for this change.
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Post by bella on Dec 6, 2009 21:20:00 GMT -5
That would be a good rule, which seems fair. Obvioulsy came from the AD's and not the NCS itself, it makes too much sense.
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Post by cotterstone on Dec 7, 2009 1:09:15 GMT -5
bella, You are a man who speaks his mind. Even though this will hurt my team next year in the playoffs I think we will vote for the change. Better competition is usually a good thing.
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Post by coachac on Dec 7, 2009 1:33:47 GMT -5
Makes 100% sense. I think that both are capable of the challenge.
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Post by football415 on Dec 7, 2009 1:51:57 GMT -5
Is this change for all divisions...justin would play up to 3 and so on?
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Post by cotterstone on Dec 7, 2009 18:08:32 GMT -5
Yes if the vote is passed it would include all divisions. I will let everybody know this evening.
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Post by sainttown on Dec 7, 2009 18:41:27 GMT -5
Would this mean that if Ferndale advances to the finals 3 years in a row (quite probable) they would move up to division 3? The Wildcats are good but I'm not sure if they're division 3 good...
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Post by bella on Dec 7, 2009 19:21:56 GMT -5
That is actually a good question saintown. Seeing that Ferndale already moves up to DIV every year when the are a true DV school I don't see how a team could be forced up if they are already playing above their natural division.
Could Newman be forced up to DI even though they are a DIII school alreay moving up to DII.
The only drawback would be DII teams in the northbay being forced up to DI. Too big of a jump and they just don't belong in DI. Rancho and Monty would have been DI after the 00'-02' NCS run.
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Post by dynomite on Dec 7, 2009 19:57:16 GMT -5
It will be interesting. I also wonder what they will do with teams that already petition up for NCS. Such as Newman and Ferndale.
How long does a team need to step up? Will it just be one year? Do they go back down if they don't win that section?
This will greatly effect teams State chances. What if Newman makes another State run but that year they have to move up to Div. I. They would basically throw away a great chance for a trip to Carson.
HS goes in cycles, so your going to hinder teams from something the past classes did. For example, this year, CN would have played in Div. I. This years team wouldnt've even been seeded. And why three seasons? Doesnt make sense. The same athletes wouldnt even still be on the team.
The only Division that I see benefiting is Div. V and maybe Div. III. Not sure its going to impact things much.
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Post by Ben Herrington on Dec 7, 2009 20:10:28 GMT -5
Moving up in Division should be by petition only. Ferndale and Newman already play up. Newman plays up even after their enrollment being doubled. There shouldnt be requirements like that for playoffs, but I do like what the Mt. Hamilton League has going in the Central Coast Section. There are two leagues, the winner of the lower league moves to the upper league, while the last place in the upper league moves down to the lower league. It would keep less successful teams playing other less successful teams, while the best play the best.
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Post by scobserver on Dec 7, 2009 22:19:03 GMT -5
I think it is an essential change....a team in the championship three straight years is clearly on a competitive roll, so I would think they would want to play in a tougher division for a challenge anyway. As for Ferndale and CN who choose to play up--well that would be their choice. Yes, CN would play D I and if it were in effect this year, they would have done better than a lot of other D 1 teams in the bracket. Ferndale I don't understand why they petition up in the first place, but again, their choice. Not like they have reached three straight D4 champ games yet.
As for the CCS Mt. Hamilton League...it's a good idea but not really relevant to the playoffs. Dominant teams would still sit in the same divisions with no requirement to seek greater post-season challenges.
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Post by cotterstone on Dec 8, 2009 18:57:33 GMT -5
Ok, The new rule pending last approval by Gil is that only a team that has won NCS 3 times in a row will have to move up a division. If they lose the next year then they go back to the previous division. And yes if Ferndale wins 3 years in a row at d4 then they would have to play d3 the next year. the voting was kind of rancorous as some coaches pushed against any change through thier AD's. They were able to get a watered down version of the first rule change. I see soccer being afected the most because there are only 2 divisions so Sonoma Academy would have to play with someone like Montgomery if they win again next year.
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Post by scobserver on Dec 9, 2009 19:39:37 GMT -5
I could live with that...three championship WINS in a row....then obviously they need to seek tougher competition. For all sports? Well, Sonoma Academy soccer probably should be playing in a higher division anyway.
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Post by johnnyappleseed on Dec 10, 2009 0:57:22 GMT -5
I heard that Casa, Eureka, Petaluma, and Monty are all getting dropped down to DIIII. Is this just a rumor? I'm not sure, but the enrollment at those school's are ALLL dropping.... L8R ST. VINNIE!
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